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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.11.15 15:11:00 -
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I murdered people in Skyrim with a bow and arrow, shot my boss in the face with a 10 mm pistol in Deus Ex, killed a police officer by running them over with a car in GTA IV, turned most of my companions to the dark side in KOTOR II, sold children into slavery in Fallout 3, deliberately sent one of my friends on a suicide mission in Mass effect 2, robbed a bank in APB, shot another player in the face with an M16 in COD 4, kicked a chicken in Fable, etc etc etc. How terribly immoral of me. |
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.11.15 15:26:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Aubepine Finfleur wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Krios Ahzek wrote:Applying the DSM-IV fails because you're not showing psychopathic behavior if you're uncaring about the well-being of characters in a game. Furthermore, the ability to know the difference between the two is generally considered a sign of good mental health. Except that the griefbears fully acknowledge they enjoy the hell out of getting people to rage IRL, and love driving them out of the game. So which population group has poor mental health, the one which does play the game to fly internet spaceships around, or the one that states that the goal of their behavior is the RL misery of some random player ? Well said. If you enjoy making people miserable in Eve (collecting tears) and still maintain that "it's only a game" then you fail at distinguishing real life from a game.
True Story: While playing an online shooter my team came a cross a player that would *****, cry and insult us everytime he got shot. This is funny so we decided to seek him out at every opportunity.
Maybe if people could distinguish the difference between real life and a game there wouldn't be anybody getting upset over their pixels, less tears would be shed and 'harvesting' tears would not be possible. |
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.11.15 16:25:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:
True Story: While playing an online shooter my team came a cross a player that would *****, cry and insult us everytime he got shot. This is funny so we decided to seek him out at every opportunity.
Maybe if people could distinguish the difference between real life and a game there wouldn't be anybody getting upset over their pixels, less tears would be shed and 'harvesting' tears would not be possible.
That you find victims from whom to extract tears for your enjoyment doesn't exonerate you from my claim. You enjoy causing real pain to real people, not characters. Your enjoyment is also very real. And you gain that enjoyment by using the game as the tool to inflict that pain. The game, in this instance, has become more than just a game to you. It is your tool. Therefore, you can no longer claim that the game is just a game to you, because the fact is that is isn't.
My 'victim' was playing a FPS and complaining about being shot. My enjoyment comes from playing games and winning. It realy is that simple.
I enjoy winning at competetive games and I can tell the difference between pixels and real life. The problem is that you cannot. Your brain will not function any other way because that's what you believe to be true.
The fact is that you are unable to tell the difference between fantasy and reality and you project your views onto other peoples actions and then assume that they all have the same thought processes that you have. They don't. The fact is that you are the one that can't tell the difference between a game and real life and would rather perform mental gymnastics and blame someone else than face up to it. You obviously have some deep issues going on and tbh I pity you.
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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.11.16 01:02:00 -
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Aubepine Finfleur wrote: online sociopaths
It's safe to say that people with mental health problems and personality disorders play on line games.
If people who play an internet spaceship game rage in real life because someone blew up their pixels on a server in London they probably have mental health problems.
If people are playing an internet spaceship game because they think that they are causing another person real life distress by destroying some pixels on a server in London they probably have a personality disorder.
Thank god all the normal people who are able to tell the difference between an internet spaceship game and reality are having a blast playing Eve.
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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.11.16 01:17:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Dai DIEDIEDIE wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
What Matrix is trying to say is that people who are cheezed over losing a ship are only half of a grief equation. An outside observer can see someone getting upset over a 3D graphical construct representing a database entry that comprises a ship.
But they can also see people getting all excited - equally so - in blowing up that same construct.
In the same way that one team of people are happy if a goal is scored in soccer and some people in the opposing team are sad. That kind of comparison is already dead. Stop trying to push it.
It's exactly the same. One person (team) is happy and the other person (team) is not happy. That is the nature of winning and losing. It's not the team who scored the goals fault if the other team become more than unhappy and storm off the pitch, get on the coach and descend into a pit of depression riddled with feelings of persecution.
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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.11.16 02:43:00 -
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Aubepine Finfleur wrote:Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:
It's safe to say that people with mental health problems and personality disorders play on line games.
If people who play an internet spaceship game rage in real life because someone blew up their pixels on a server in London they probably have mental health problems.
If people are playing an internet spaceship game because they think that they are causing another person real life distress by destroying some pixels on a server in London they probably have a personality disorder.
Thank god all the normal people who are able to tell the difference between an internet spaceship game and reality are having a blast playing Eve.
That they do ! And that is why they mostly live in high-sec, for fear of getting angry should their internet spaceship, in which they have invested time in any form whatsoever, get blown up in an ingame event that has no ingame goal, but an outgame one: getting their buttons pushed and rage at someone who has gone out of his way to use every cheese or borderline exploit just to humiliate them, make them feel dumb and disempowered IRL.
Exactly. What sort of thought process do these people go through that would cause them to feel humiliated and disempowered in real life by somebody elses actions in a video game ? What sort of person starts playing a video game that is primarily based on taking agressive action against someone elses pixels and then feels they have been wronged when someone does exactly what the game is designed for ? These people probably shouldn't be playing video games that are designed for reasonably intelligent adults in the first place. |
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:26:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Have to be stoned not to have anything you put effort into affect you.
Everybody in this game puts in effort to aquire their pixels. |
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.11.17 12:33:00 -
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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Have to be stoned not to have anything you put effort into affect you. Everybody in this game puts in effort to aquire their pixels.
Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:No, I think you are just looking to justify your actions and I refuse to accept that.
If you refuse to accept that, to some people, Eve is just a game the problem is entirely yours. How am I supposed to tell if a player has a mental illness in real life and why should it even enter into my mind while playing a video game? I always assume that everyone I play with is a rational human being.
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:41:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Mrs Sooperdudespaceman wrote:...
If you refuse to accept that, to some people, Eve is just a game the problem is entirely yours. How am I supposed to tell if a player has a mental illness in real life and why should it even enter into my mind while playing a video game? I always assume that everyone I play with is a rational human being. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_disinhibition_effectQuote:It's Just a Game
Core Concept: Dissociative Imagination
By combining solipsistic introjection with the imagination, a feeling of escapism is produced GÇô a way to throw off mundane concerns to address a specific need without having to worry about consequences. According to Suler's[1] personal discussion with lawyer Emily Finch (a criminal lawyer studying identity theft in cyberspace), Finch's observation is that people may see cyberspace as a kind of game where the normal rules of everyday interaction don't apply to them. In this way, the user is able to dissociate their online persona from the offline reality, effectively enabling that person to don that persona or shed it whenever they wish simply by logging on or off. Being dissociative with your online persona is a kin to having multiple personalities and that is a mental health problem.
What has online identity theft got to do with video games and what thought process did you go through to think they are in the slightest bit comparable? |
Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.12.09 12:51:00 -
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Trying to explain that Eve is just a game to mental people is like trying to explain Darwins theory of evolution to a Creationist.
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Mrs Sooperdudespaceman
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Posted - 2011.12.09 13:58:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote: Even if it is "just a game" latent tendencies will always surface in the sandbox. Period.
This explains why people claim to be being griefed when, in fact, no griefing was carried out or intended. |
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